http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ Community Planet Forums: Last 35 Posts en Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:28:23 +0000 http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/the-venus-project-and-its-zeitgeist-movement#post-52 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:40:06 +0000 Lj1221 52@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Prometheuspan, what made you come to that conclusion? I've been on the forums a few months now, and haven't seen them as 'secret police'? If this is true, it's detrimental to my belief in the venus project, and the zeitgeist movement. </p> <p>Anyway, the zeitgeist movement exposed me to the Community Planet Foundation, it was a wonderful idea! I was proposing a gradual full overhaul of the system to transition to this new level of human consciousness. The next evolutional step, this is a particular problem we have tho. In the first time in evolution, a species has the decision to evolve or be destroyed by themselves. It's a particularly interesting irony.</p> <p>I would love to talk to anyone on here, I am 17 years old and this has changed my perspective. We need to build a community, to get people to understand. It totally makes sense!</p> <p>I am suggesting that we combine Community Planet Foundation, and The Venus Project so that we can build the first experimental system. Venus Project with it's technological advancements and the CP's system it seems like a perfect marriage.</p> <p>I am currently trying to create a Zeitgeist Chapter here in Utah, I will explain that building this 'community' will be beneficial to the progress of mankind. When we get enough people, I am going to contact Jack, and hopefully with the help of Jacque fresco we can have a consensus session and we can come up with a plan! Hopefully we can come up to a idea and just totally get this thing going! </p> <p>Keep the good work up you guys, it's absolutely amazing what you have created here. TVP, TZM, and CPF are all on the same level, it's just trying to find cooperation and getting our whole planet to transition into the next level of human evolution.</p> <p>Thanks! Feel free to email me for questions, or comments! Please! I'd love to help get us on the same page, perhaps we could get you and Jacque to collaborate. The possibilities are endless. </p> <p><a href="mailto:l_davinci@q.com">l_davinci@q.com</a></p> <p>Thanks. "A mind once stretched by a new idea, will never regain it's original proportions." </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/autocad-to-sketchup-models#post-51 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:17:24 +0000 prometheuspan 51@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>this is a repository for sharing 3d models of new civilization buildings. I'm an architect and I studied ergonomics, so the main thing that my buildings are about is giving people a lot of space and then giving people serious porch space in order to grow porch gardens, while trying to seriously increase vertical stacking.</p> <p>I'm willing to draw any worthy projects for us or to help illustrate further explorations for books or etc.</p> <p><a href="http://globalcommunityportal.com/one/doku.php?id=sketchup" rel="nofollow">http://globalcommunityportal.com/one/doku.php?id=sketchup</a> </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/something-more-than-changing-light-bulbs#post-50 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:57:35 +0000 prometheuspan 50@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>the point of 6 500 person communities is merely an approximation of a tipping point where some few number of functional communities with at least a few hundred persons could act as catalysts to show the world a new and better modality can work and is practical. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/handbook-for-the-new-paradigm#post-48 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:52:23 +0000 prometheuspan 48@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>I have read it and can say it is very good if a little too simple. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/a-roadmap-for-social-transformation#post-47 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:48:07 +0000 prometheuspan 47@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p><a href="http://fluffygroovy.com/" rel="nofollow">http://fluffygroovy.com/</a></p> <p>i can find this...</p> <p><a href="http://fluffygroovy.com/activism.htm" rel="nofollow">http://fluffygroovy.com/activism.htm</a> </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/a-roadmap-for-social-transformation#post-46 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:45:31 +0000 prometheuspan 46@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>when i click your link to that site i get this;</p> <p>"The page cannot be found</p> <p>The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable." </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/a-roadmap-for-social-transformation#post-45 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:44:40 +0000 prometheuspan 45@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Its too bad this didn't get more for conversation.</p> <p>I also have some ideas about a transition plan. I wonder if you guys are still around and listening.</p> <p>In short, What i think we need to do is to create an informational revolution using science facts and knowledge and stacking them in sufficient density in one place.</p> <p>This forum isn't quite strong enough to do that, but a good wiki would be.</p> <p>Once we generate an informational revolution, everything else follows from that. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/v-radio-interview-with-jack-reed#post-44 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:41:30 +0000 prometheuspan 44@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>VTV is an evil person and an ad hominem junkie.</p> <p>He banned me from the site for pointing out that he was verbally attacking somebody and breaking the rules as set for the forum. Which is his habit. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/on-the-election#post-43 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:39:38 +0000 prometheuspan 43@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>what we need is a viable third party. Mcinsane would at least have caused so much strife and suffering that the whole two party class system would have self destructed. Obama is like the slow boiled lobster. Never had a chance to feel it getting too hot. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/the-venus-project-and-its-zeitgeist-movement#post-42 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:37:00 +0000 prometheuspan 42@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>The ideals of the TZM/ TVP movement are noble and wonderful ideals. Sadly the people in charge of it and running it are evil people. Namely, VTV, Thunder, and the other secret police on the forum.</p> <p>They are abusive ad hominem junkies and bullies, and they are only in the way of actual progress or solving any problems or bringing about positive change. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/handbook-for-the-new-paradigm#post-35 Mon, 17 May 2010 16:24:42 +0000 Captainplanet 35@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Hi everybody,I recently read a book called "the handbook for a new paradigm" by a guy called George Green.And even though I can not verify all the information or claims made in this book,I definately recommend as many people check it out as possible.I think that it was published in 1999, and even though it doesn't talk at all about building sustainable communities or anything similar,I found it to be remarkably in sync with the ideals found in the next evolution. If you to check it out,just visit <a href="http://www.nohoax.com" rel="nofollow">www.nohoax.com</a> and read it online or download for free. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/new-mexico-community#post-34 Mon, 17 May 2010 15:55:21 +0000 Captainplanet 34@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>I found a place called the "Whirlwind Community" in New Mexico which I thought perhaps someone on here might be interested in.It's being set up by a guy called Sankara Saranam,and even though I haven't had a chance to visit the place yet,it does look real promising with its' spectacular desert surroundings(if you're into that kinda thing).Anyway,there's a link on that guys website (www.pranayama.org) which has more info. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/something-more-than-changing-light-bulbs#post-33 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:47:33 +0000 esther 33@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>I dont care exactly how many communities we need to make it work....but i do know it is exhilerating to even just get together with people to address things that REALLY matter.<br /> About concensus......to me it is the willingness to move forward.....If we can be in concensus about that!!!!!! </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/starting-a-local-community#post-32 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:27:36 +0000 esther 32@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>With regards to what Chris wrote a year ago....maybe you just have a mental block about creating community!!! </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/v-radio-interview-with-jack-reed#post-31 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:16:09 +0000 omnistpriest 31@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Yes, this was a great show. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/v-radio-interview-with-jack-reed#post-30 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:11:25 +0000 jreed 30@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>VTV is Neil Kiernan, and he is a very aware person and interviewer, so it was a real pleasure to be on his show. He gives the links above.<br /> —Jack Reed </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/sustunaible-systems-of-agriculture#post-29 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:58:19 +0000 jreed 29@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>I loved the French people I met while facilitating consensus trainings in France Summer of '09. Community Planet's answer for Mireille is covered in the description of Communities in The Next Evolution, which. by the way, has been translated into French.</p> <p>Jack Reed </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/the-venus-project-and-its-zeitgeist-movement#post-28 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:53:08 +0000 jreed 28@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Hi mj.<br /> Yes, so many people have contacted us from the Venus Project and Zeitgeist Movement. On Jan. 18, I was a guest on their show. Here's the link for the interview: <a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/v-radio/2010/01/20/community-planet-foundation-interview" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogtalkradio.com/v-radio/2010/01/20/community-planet-foundation-interview</a> </p> <p>Jack Reed </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/v-radio-interview-with-jack-reed#post-27 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:00:07 +0000 VTV 27@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Hey guys it was great to interview Jack, and I hope to see far more collaboration between our two movements in the future. You can listen to the show here:<br /> <a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/v-radio/2010/01/20/community-planet-foundation-interview" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogtalkradio.com/v-radio/2010/01/20/community-planet-foundation-interview</a></p> <p>Also, please visit my website here: <a href="http://v-radio.org/" rel="nofollow">http://v-radio.org/</a> </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/sustunaible-systems-of-agriculture#post-26 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:28:11 +0000 Mireille 26@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Hello,<br /> I met Jack this summer in France and was happy to realize that my dreams were already thought deeply by others.<br /> I am now inquiring about how to give food in a sustunaible way to the nine billions of people who are supposedly going to live on the planet in a few years. I'd like to write a book about it. I am sure that you thought about sustunaible solutions at all level for the highest good of all. Could you please indicate me how things have been foreseen in the frame of a community vision, but also for people who are going to stay in the cities? </p> <p>Thank you very much in advance for your advices.<br /> Warmly yours<br /> Mireille </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/the-venus-project-and-its-zeitgeist-movement#post-23 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:26:19 +0000 manujarvinen 23@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Hello</p> <p>I fully support the aims of this foundation.</p> <p>This foundation also has extremely similar if not identical means than what the Venus project (www.thevenusproject.com) and its activist arm, The Zeitgeist movement (www.thezeitgeistmovement.com) represent. </p> <p>Let me tell you, it might be worthwhile to check them out. There is more people thinking like this than you might expect ;)</p> <p>mj </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/kiss-economics#post-22 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:04:36 +0000 Rob 22@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>KISS is a neat acronym for KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.<br /> ===============================</p> <p>Although this may not be the solution that saves the world, I think it deserves a hearty debate because of its elegant simplicity. Its not mine. It belongs to members of the Economic fraternity who have been developing this idea for many years.</p> <p>Please consider helping clarify my interpretation, joining the debate and sharing the topic.</p> <p>The source: - <a href="http://mises.org/books/desoto.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/books/desoto.pdf</a><br /> (chapter 9 for those with limited time)</p> <p>The concept as at 14th July 2009<br /> (**original interpretation no corrections yet**).</p> <p>First the simple inexpensive actions<br /> ------------------------------------------<br /> 1. As its final act of Monetary Policy a government should print money to restore all on demand savings in banks and "gift" this money to the private banks.</p> <p>2. Preceding this act the laws should be amended to protect 100% of savings and abandon Fractional Reserve Policies.</p> <p>3. Bank Assets equivalent to the "Gift" (this does not impact on Bank Equity) are consumed by a Mutual Fund run by the banks.</p> <p>4. The Government because of the "Gift" holds claim to the original assets in the Mutual Fund and uses these assets ,e.g. bank loans and govt.bonds, to cancel its debts to an amount equivalent to the money printed.</p> <p>5. Governments accept the peace challenge. Its just a signature.</p> <p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=75806570350" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=75806570350</a></p> <p>In summary &lt;Govt&gt; prints money&lt;$X&gt; to restore the money that backs savings&lt;$X&gt; in return for existing equivalent bank assets&lt;$X&gt; owed to depositors to pay down &lt;$X&gt; of &lt;Govt&gt; debt. Does not impact on the money supply so the actions are non inflationary. And make some simple changes at law.</p> <p>The consequences<br /> -----------------------</p> <p>That relatively tiny effort, is it. The rest follows automatically and includes.</p> <p>(Note: I've included some graphics to facilitate discussions . See the images section)</p> <p>-Developing Economies could start on a better footing and avoid the problems of boom, bust, massive debts, inappropriate privilege and over consumption.</p> <p>- Does not change the existing Money Supply. Deposits do not change only their guarantee status. Government Debt pay down does not affect the Money Supply.</p> <p>- A massive reduction in NATIONAL DEBTS and the associated budgeted INTEREST payments. The "traded" bank assets such as loans have their own interest components so Bond Holders should not be disadvantaged.</p> <p>- A 100% guarantee of all demand SAVINGS. The economists recommend that this is initially backed by gold because it is one of the best forms of money and defies manipulation.</p> <p>- Existing Bank equity is not affected. Future equity depends on banks charging competitive fees for financial services such as trading advice, transactions and security.</p> <p>- Market demand for investment does not change but is only satisfied by meeting the demands of people willing to invest their savings. This is a more powerful and direct form of investment supply where vested interest demands quality.</p> <p>- Governments can still intervene by banning harmful investments and sponsoring investments that bring the community positive outcomes. This would be done via the legal instrument that governs banking.</p> <p>-The banks are regulated through the legal arm of government. And perhaps audited.</p> <p>- Significant taxation reduction by canceling monetary governance.</p> <p>- Should appeal to Government because it simplifies their role and raises integrity. All economic agents combine to make the best informed decisions for themselves and also the efficiency of the economy.</p> <p>- In democratic nations, it improves the quality of the principle of the separation of power.</p> <p>- Governments are more openly accountable and simple. Funding should come from taxation, meaning voters are better informed.</p> <p>- Decisions on war become more of a public policy with funding being direct from taxation.</p> <p>- Annual Expenditure savings (perhaps even military) can be diverted to supporting and sponsoring large scale infrastructure development for more appropriate energy and water solutions. That's work and good sustainable investment isn't it.</p> <p><a href="http://www.euronews.net/2009/07/13/sahara-solar-power-plants-plan/" rel="nofollow">http://www.euronews.net/2009/07/13/sahara-solar-power-plants-plan/</a></p> <p>-Its thought that it could eliminate boom and bust cycles</p> <p>So think, Ive got it wrong. Let's debate and see if there really is a KISS that can save the world :-)</p> <p>" EARTH has her own ways, following is the best choice. ECONOMICS is about allocation of scarce resources hopefully respectful of equality in equity and sustainability. It's not about money:-) Being truly selfless resolves the SPIRITual question. Problems solved." -</p> <p>RB 2009</p> <p>Closing thoughts ...</p> <p>Spirit:<br /> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=98275164927" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=98275164927</a></p> <p>Earth interacts with Spirit. Where is the joy in the Selfish or the Selfless.<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAteAz3WQ0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAteAz3WQ0</a></p> <p>Earth:<br /> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=98319949927" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=98319949927</a></p> <p>Economy:<br /> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=98325124927" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=98325124927</a> </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/a-roadmap-for-social-transformation#post-21 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:17:54 +0000 socalcw 21@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>URL not resolving as posted: In your link you included a period (.) after ".htm"</p> <p>As such, that link doesn't resolve to anything unless I delete that final dot after pasting into my web browser. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/a-roadmap-for-social-transformation#post-20 Sun, 17 May 2009 04:15:24 +0000 HrvojeButkovic 20@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>I've recently put together a high-level plan for social transformation. It can be found at <a href="http://fluffygroovy.com/activism.htm." rel="nofollow">http://fluffygroovy.com/activism.htm.</a> I'm posting it here because I'm looking for ways to improve it and would appreciate constructive criticism. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/horray#post-19 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:04:18 +0000 RHSpeaker 19@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>J - I am not sure if you are still active on this site. I live in Lebanon, NH (about 90 min away) and am looking for networking opportunities to start a discussion group either on-line or in person. Let me know if you are interested. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/collaboration-is-key#post-18 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:16:34 +0000 J 18@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>Michael Albert and Robin Hahnel's book and initiative Parecon (participatory economics) have a pretty big following and they are describing almost the exact same thing as the CPF. you can read the book for free at zmag.org (the best site for real news) I think it would be worth it to collaborate with them. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/land#post-17 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:55:05 +0000 shipleye 17@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>My husband immigrated from Germany in the mid 50's and said owning land was so important for many reasons. After living on the land/farm for almost 40 years, we sold it to a group of Buddhists who fell in love with our wheel of life we had put up on one of the barns.<br /> Now, after 8 1/2 years of moving to various states to be near family, etc. I think we should all so very seriously think that land will be most important regardless of who gets elected. We would be willing to make one last move to try and get this established since we know how difficult farming is. So, are there any plans yet to secure land and try and build our community?<br /> Thanks<br /> Betsy Shipley </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/on-the-election#post-16 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:51:04 +0000 J 16@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>+ if McInsane wins it will at least be a boost to the Free Vermont Movement ;) </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/on-the-election#post-15 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:47:52 +0000 J 15@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>im voting Cynthia McKinney. I never liked obama but he lost all my faith after voting for telecom immunity when they renewed the fisa act, after promising much of the progressive community he would filibuster any bill with telecom immunity. Also I decided I am going to start buying a lotto ticket every week even though I grew up with my parents referring to the lottery as a tax on the mathematically challenged. If I win I pledge all my money to the CPF. Seriously! </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/something-more-than-changing-light-bulbs#post-14 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:53:36 +0000 tmpixley 14@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>I'm just curious why six 500 person communities is the magic number. It seems random to me, and I did read the book, and have had lots of conversations about it, but I still don't understand why it has to be that specific number of people and communities. I also don't understand how consensus works. I have a hard time getting to consensus between myself and my five year old, how are 500 people going to come to a consensus on a regular basis?<br /> I would like to see you write a new book specifically on that topic. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/global-reserve-bank#post-13 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:10:26 +0000 JohnPozzi 13@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>The Community Planet Forum is cordially invited to review the Global Reserve Bank evolution at <a href="http://www.grb.net" rel="nofollow">www.grb.net</a> </p> <p>John </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/something-more-than-changing-light-bulbs#post-12 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:38:09 +0000 jreed 12@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>J - Answering your question about the status of the Co-op Village project in FL, go to <a href="http://www.co-opvillagefoundation.org." rel="nofollow">www.co-opvillagefoundation.org.</a> Interesting site that will give you all the latest. </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/starting-a-local-community#post-11 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:32:03 +0000 J 11@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>check out ic.org they have a huge list of communities just beware the (forming) communities that could mean anything. but its worth checking out! </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/something-more-than-changing-light-bulbs#post-10 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:34:16 +0000 J 10@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>yep! I have been spreading the word as best I can. also Jack whats the status of the pensacola FL project that Jim Costa is doing? </p> http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/topic/horray#post-9 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:10:15 +0000 J 9@http://www.communityplanet.org/forums/ <p>im not looking to move into one, but i definatly want to check them out and maybe volunteer some of my time in exchange for a little education on sustainability and permaculture. </p>